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5 Creative Flaws That Will Expose Your Lack of Storytelling Experience...

There are a million ways to cripple a story. Here are five of them. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being inexperienced (we’ve all been there). Unless it shows up in your story in a way that detracts from it.

Anyway...here is the link...do you agree with all of them?
http://storyfix.com/5-creative-flaws-that-will-expose-your-lack-of-storytelling-experience
I once knew a drinker who had a moderating problem...

He just dogged all of my rough drafts

It's alright. I have done these at one point in time.

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That was interesting. I don't completely agree with two of them, but I can see where he's coming from.

1. Proper Names Within Dialogue

I've used names in dialogue before but only because it's the way I was taught to greet people. When I first see someone I say hello and use their name, so I've done the same in my stories. I'll have to go back and take a look at that again!


2. Chit-Chat

Skip the pleasantries when two people meet. Avoid the weather talk. The how-have-you-beens. Instead, opt for something like this:

After a few minutes of catching up Laura popped the question she’d come for.

“Are you having an affair with my husband?” she asked.


I would've started with the dialogue rather than "After a few minutes..." The dialogue would've been a stronger way to start in my opinion.


There were some good tips in there.
Yeah, I tend to agree with you Lisa...

I agree that using proper names within dialogue should not be overused, as in his examples, but there is nothing wrong with using it now and then...like you mentioned, when you greet people...and sometimes for emphasis...

For instance...

"I tend to agree with you Lisa," DirtyMartini started, "and as long as it's not overused, I don't see a problem."

"Well, thank you," Lisa responded with a smile.

To me, that is normal dialogue in every sense I can think of...

Dialogue is something that is somewhat exempt from a lot of traditional "rules"...it is, after all, people speaking...and people don't always adhere to proper English usage in speech...that is the subject of a whole other thread, no doubt...

I can think of other examples where it would be perfectly acceptable to use proper nouns within dialogue...in a room with multiple persons, for instance...

"Hey Scooter," DirtyMartini started, "pass that pipe over to Sharon. She's been waiting patiently for it."

"Sure Al," Scooter answered, "I've been waiting for Louise to get done with it, but she don't want to give it up."

"Yeah, I know what you mean," DirtyMartini grinned, "She hogs the pipe almost as much as Yas."

"The main thing is that we get everything smoked up before Rascal gets here. You know how she is."

"Yeah, she's a legend I hear." Scooter chuckled.

"Hey Scoot," DirtyMartini started, "Maybe there should be a Smoking Badge on Stories Space."

"Oh yeah Al," Scooter beamed, "Suggest it to Lisa. I could think of a few legends that would get that one fast."

See, that to me would seem like perfectly acceptable dialogue...and I would tend to think most people would agree...

As far as the chit-chat goes...again, I think it's a matter of using common sense...and like using proper nouns, it's simply a matter of avoiding excess usage, and knowing what seems like normal and "natural" conversation...

Now pass that pipe, whoever has it now...
I once knew a drinker who had a moderating problem...

I think that there is a time and place for proper names, like any other thing in writing, if it is overused, then it kills the pace of your story.

The food thing makes sense as well, but one thing I do when writing about food is focus on the aroma, not sure where that fits in. Of course if you are writing erotica, then smell, taste and texture is a good way of arousing your reader's senses.

I do agree about the insignificant details (more commonly known as fluff) killing the pace of your story. If the details are revelant to getting to know your character, then just keep ot simple and fun. I do find that at times when there is fluff writing and it is entertaining fluff, the reader doesn't really mind. Or is that just me?

Hmm.... forgotten what the other points were.

And Alan, if I had the pipe, it would not be passed. Some things were just not meant to be shared. Expecting me to pass the pipe would be like me asking for the keys to your martini cabinet.

Point proven with that dialogue though, that's what I meant by entertaining fluff.

“Many people hear voices when no one is there. Some of them are called mad and are shut up in rooms where they stare at the walls all day. Others are called writers and they do pretty much the same thing.”

I have to agree with Yasmin about fluff. As long as you keep it brief, and most important; entertaining.
I have my concerns about DirtyMartini's example though.
We'll never see that pipe again if Alan ever gets hold of it
I agree with most of them.

I only semi-agree with #1 (names in dialogue). While it can be overdone, it is not rare for people to use proper names when first encountering one-another. (Hi, Joe, how are you?") Also, using the names is a device to help keep readers straight on who is speaking in lieu of overusing dialogue tags, such as "Joe said", Mary asked, etc. Think of a dialogue sequence involving more than two people. Readers need a crutch to keep things lined up properly or they will end up re-reading to avoid confusion and that detracts form the effectiveness of the scene and the readers' enjoyment.

At the same time, name use can be overdone and there are techniques to avoid both dialogue tags and overuse of proper names.


#4 is valid, except that there could be certain times when the details are useful. Taking the example of the person prepping for a blind date, if the thoughts and emotions of the character are important, an interlude ass she is alone in her house with her thoughts might be an integral part of the story.

One flaw that was not in the article was the tendency by some of Telling, not Showing. We are all guilty of it from time to time. When I edit my work I always find instances of it and have to work passages.
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5 Creative Flaws That Will Expose Your Lack of Storytelling Experience...

There are a million ways to cripple a story. Here are five of them. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being inexperienced (we’ve all been there). Unless it shows up in your story in a way that detracts from it.

Anyway...here is the link...do you agree with all of them?
http://storyfix.com/5-creative-flaws-that-will-expose-your-lack-of-storytelling-experience


Somewhat to my surprise I have not been guilty of any of those flaws. My writing has been called sparse, but you know where you are in one of my stories, and you know what is happening.

I will write, "He put on his coat and walked to the drug store." Someone else might devote a page to describing that, but is a page really necessary? Anything in addition should be relevant to the story. Why does he walk, rather than drive his car? Does he have a car? If not, why not? (I don't, BTW.) Is his coat expensive, inexpensive, old, or new? What kind of a neighborhood does he walk through? If the answers to any of those questions are relevant the story, they probably should be included, otherwise they should not be.
Bumping this back to the first page as it is REALLY very helpful!
In college I had to learn a technique I called "terse verse" which was basically to eliminate these 5 error's. BTW my father was a news paper editor and he taught me to avoid all of these as variations on "fluff". I only partially agree about the use of proper names. It can easily be part of a particular character's persona and personality, in which case it is actually required.

I personally don't agree with the blank line change. Perhaps this is a new standard in writing but I have been pounded in class for using it. Has this changed? For me it breaks the flow of the type and therefore the story.

There are also pieces of poetry or descriptive essay type writing in which painting word pictures using hyper rich adjective language is perfectly acceptable. If your intent is to bring the reader's senses into focus on the story, not just their mind, this works well. If it is not a needed part of the story, kill it for G... sake! it just puts readers to sleep and they close out, never finishing the story.

These are very good pointers for rough draft editing and in the main I do agree. Any feed back?
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