Updating badges to reflect reality

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Every member, from the crotchety old man in the corner to the dude at the head of the parade with pom-poms, is entitled to an opinion. As I've explained to a couple of members, it isn't the opinion expressed so much as the manner in which it is presented. Be respectful. Be flexible. Be open-minded and consider all sides of an issue.

There are many ways on SS that an author is lauded and/or recognized for achievement. Ratings, views, RR's, EC's, front cover listings and badges. All of which are subjective. At this point, it's the best we got and tweaking of the processes are currently being considered.

Larryf's well-intentioned post was spot on. These things we are currently discussing should be elements of SS that makes being a member more relevant. We should be more supportive and trumpet the victories of each other rather than assuming that just because one author got a piece of pie means there is none left for anybody else.

Gypsy and Ping are right. We are a community, generously supported by Nicola. Let's not waste the opportunity being offered here and encourage new members, mentor those who want help, and celebrate the endeavors of our friends.

ps. and I'll try not being the crotchety old man in the corner.

I personally agree with Maggie post on this thread. that said

I would like to "throw" my name in the list for the newest badge ... "crotchety old man in the corner" I believe Larry / Dreamcatcher can't be the only one here in Stories

To be fair... and to be accurate... I did not call or refer to Mr. L. Dreamcatcher as the "crotchety old man in the corner."

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Just wondering if we need so many levels? IDK. Some people have been here for six, seven, eight years, and they still don't have the views to meet the new, proposed criteria. Just sayin'. It almost seems like the numbers still need to be re-worked, or the value of some of the badges should be revisited. Are they all necessary? Do 3000 or 2000 or however many views really make that story a 'famous' story? Seems a tad hyperbolic. I think that's the right word. And I'm not trying to be too graphic.


Out of 9808 stories and poems published, as listed on the main page...


10 stories and/or poems have more than 10,000 views, with one anomaly of over 187,000.

18 stories have between 5000 and 10,000 views

33 stories have between 3000 and 4999 views

27 stories have between 2500 and 2999 views

49 stories have between 2000 and 2499 views


My point being, I think, is that we don't really need anything past Famous and Legendary (or use other label names, if so chosen).

2500 views for famous seems reasonable, given the history and current viewing climate

7500 view for legendary seems reasonable as well

Currently, there are 3 stories that meet the current famous status (30,000 views), and one of those meets current legendary status (100,000 views)

Do we really want or need another level or badge beyond that? Just asking. IDK. I don't think so.

We don't need to make things complicated, just attainable for those that want to attain.

Thoughts?

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Famous Story: 2,500 views
Legendary Story: 7,500 views
Famous Audio Story: 300 listens
Legendary Audio Story: 1,000 listens
Profile Star: 7,500 profile views
Profile Superstar: 15,000 profile views
Profile Megastar: 30,000 profile views
Stories Star: 35,000 total story views
Stories Superstar: 65,000 total story views
Stories Megastar: 125,000 total story views

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Let's get to work on these badge numbers, so we can get back to reading and writing, and growing our little writing community.

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I love the 'Prima Donna' categories, so tongue in cheek. Really made me giggle. Naughty you.

Well, I wanted something to convey “bigger than a superstar” and was having trouble coming up with the right term. Diva wasn’t quite right, Principal sounded too stuffy, but Prima Donna struck me as a lighthearted option. Maybe Megastar would be better, though. (I don’t want to offend anyone who earns the badge.)

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Too many carrots (badges/awards) spoil the stew. Maggy is absolutely dead on target.

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Just wondering if we need so many levels? IDK. Some people have been here for six, seven, eight years, and they still don't have the views to meet the new, proposed criteria. Just sayin'. It almost seems like the numbers still need to be re-worked, or the value of some of the badges should be revisited. Are they all necessary? Do 3000 or 2000 or however many views really make that story a 'famous' story? Seems a tad hyperbolic. I think that's the right word. And I'm not trying to be too graphic.


Out of 9808 stories and poems published, as listed on the main page...


10 stories and/or poems have more than 10,000 views, with one anomaly of over 187,000.

18 stories have between 5000 and 10,000 views

33 stories have between 3000 and 4999 views

27 stories have between 2500 and 2999 views

49 stories have between 2000 and 2499 views


My point being, I think, is that we don't really need anything past Famous and Legendary (or use other label names, if so chosen).

2500 views for famous seems reasonable, given the history and current viewing climate

7500 view for legendary seems reasonable as well

Currently, there are 3 stories that meet the current famous status (30,000 views), and one of those meets current legendary status (100,000 views)

Do we really want or need another level or badge beyond that? Just asking. IDK. I don't think so.

We don't need to make things complicated, just attainable for those that want to attain.

Thoughts?

Dude. You're making this way too complicated. I've already posted my thoughts:

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Famous Story: 2,500 views
Legendary Story: 7,500 views
Famous Audio Story: 300 listens
Legendary Audio Story: 1,000 listens
Profile Star: 7,500 profile views
Profile Superstar: 15,000 profile views
Profile Megastar: 30,000 profile views
Stories Star: 35,000 total story views
Stories Superstar: 65,000 total story views
Stories Megastar: 125,000 total story views

All of the above are based on existing badges, just renamed and the requirements adjusted to be more attainable.

We have Famous and Legendary Story badges — with proposed revision of the criteria down to 2,500 views and 7,500 views respectively — and nothing beyond that for individual story views. But individual story views aren't the only accomplishments worthy of a badge.

What about active members who AREN'T writers? Maybe they prefer to spend their time tinkering with their profile and interacting with friends there. Don't they deserve a badge too?

What about prolific writers who don't necessarily get a lot of views on any one piece, but their body of work as a whole has a lot of views? What's wrong with showing them a little love, badge-wise? The Stories Star, Superstar and Megastar badges are for total views on all stories. They would replace the Millionaires Club, because, let's face it, no one is going to reach a million views here.

It isn't complicated. These badges will be automatically generated by the system once the required threshold is reached.

For profile views and total story views, when the next level is attained, the previous badge will be replaced (not added to). Again this is all done by the system. For example, my profile has 10,850 views, so I'll get a Profile Star badge. Cool! If it were ever to reach 15,000 views, I'd get a Profile Superstar badge — and the Profile Star badge would disappear. Same thing with the total story views badges.

As a reminder...

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Let's get to work on these badge numbers, so we can get back to reading and writing, and growing our little writing community.

This is what I'm trying to do.

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Maggie has added 8 badges.

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Let's get to work on these badge numbers, so we can get back to reading and writing, and growing our little writing community.

This is what I'm trying to do.

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"There are two things people want more than sex and money: recognition and praise."
--Mary Kay Ash, Founder of Mary Kay Cosmetics

"Recognition is not a scarce resource. You can't use it up or run out of it."
--Susan M. Heathfield, About.com Human Resources Expert

"Don't worry when you are not recognized, but strive to be worthy of recognition." Abraham Lincoln

From the perspective of a newcomer, thank you for the badges that tell me how much I've done. I don't count things very well.

I value the praise of a Recommended Read more than badges because it is recognition from my superpeers of the quality of work. The talent here is awesome! I walk with giants here and not everyone can have that experience in their life. I would like to be a giant...someday.

The lack of scoring on my other work keeps me humble and reminds me to do better. I have plenty of reminders, too!

So all of this is to say Thank You! This site has value to me.

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Today marks the first I have noticed of some changes to the badges on our site here. Apparently our good friend Gav is making some updates. If you go to the Badges list you will read quite a few changes. Some are simply badges that are renamed. That is the case with the old Prolific Writer and the Omnium badge. Those two are now called the Diverse Writer and the Plenary Writer.

I won't mention all that I saw in the list. But there are interesting changes.

One that is of interest to me particulary is the new Author 250 badge for authors with over 250 stories. I, along with Colors_of_the_Wind and CKAcres, now display that badge. However, it should be noted that we three are no longer listed in the Authors' list. I assume it has to do with this badge change. I will hope that we three will reappear in the Authors' list again, perhaps tomorrow when the system has a chance to recycle itself.

But it is going to be fun to watch the changes as they occur.

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Has there ever been a consideration of updating the badges here on StoriesSpace to reflect reality? For instance, instead of needing 30,000 views to achieve a Famous story might the threshold be something more realistic for this site? Perhaps 2,500 or so? And might we also consider changing the other badges to show the same reality? It's just a thought. I wasn't aware if that had ever been considered before. The way it is now I would think some badges may never be achieved.

Does anyone have an opinion?

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Has there ever been a consideration of updating the badges here on StoriesSpace to reflect reality? For instance, instead of needing 30,000 views to achieve a Famous story might the threshold be something more realistic for this site? Perhaps 2,500 or so? And might we also consider changing the other badges to show the same reality? It's just a thought. I wasn't aware if that had ever been considered before. The way it is now I would think some badges may never be achieved.

Does anyone have an opinion?

Not sure if this post (24th May, 2017) was the first discussion here on this topic but it was certainly the post that started the ball rolling so to speak.

Whether you believe in the badge concept or not, what has now been accomplished is awesome and all Members should be congratulating Maggie and her crew for seeing this through. I have no idea how Gav ever found the time to do this; he is just a phenomenom.

Way more important than the badge update is what it signifies. It signifies a commitment to the site by the powers that be, a commitment that many Members had thought was gone. Many believed that, given the activity elsewhere, perhaps stories space was just being left to wither away.

Sometimes it is just sooooo wonderful to be gloriously wrong!.

Now the Site has demonstrated its commitment to its Members its time for all Members to reciprocate, by writing more here and each introducing say one new Member a month?

We can do that you know.

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Has there ever been a consideration of updating the badges here on StoriesSpace to reflect reality? For instance, instead of needing 30,000 views to achieve a Famous story might the threshold be something more realistic for this site? Perhaps 2,500 or so? And might we also consider changing the other badges to show the same reality? It's just a thought. I wasn't aware if that had ever been considered before. The way it is now I would think some badges may never be achieved.

Does anyone have an opinion?

Not sure if this post (24th May, 2017) was the first discussion here on this topic but it was certainly the post that started the ball rolling so to speak.

Whether you believe in the badge concept or not, what has now been accomplished is awesome and all Members should be congratulating Maggie and her crew for seeing this through. I have no idea how Gav ever found the time to do this; he is just a phenomenom.

Way more important than the badge update is what it signifies. It signifies a commitment to the site by the powers that be, a commitment that many Members had thought was gone. Many believed that, given the activity elsewhere, perhaps stories space was just being left to wither away.

Sometimes it is just sooooo wonderful to be gloriously wrong!.

Now the Site has demonstrated its commitment to its Members its time for all Members to reciprocate, by writing more here and each introducing say one new Member a month?

We can do that you know.

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Has there ever been a consideration of updating the badges here on StoriesSpace to reflect reality? For instance, instead of needing 30,000 views to achieve a Famous story might the threshold be something more realistic for this site? Perhaps 2,500 or so? And might we also consider changing the other badges to show the same reality? It's just a thought. I wasn't aware if that had ever been considered before. The way it is now I would think some badges may never be achieved.

Does anyone have an opinion?

Not sure if this post (24th May, 2017) was the first discussion here on this topic but it was certainly the post that started the ball rolling so to speak.

Whether you believe in the badge concept or not, what has now been accomplished is awesome and all Members should be congratulating Maggie and her crew for seeing this through. I have no idea how Gav ever found the time to do this; he is just a phenomenom.

Way more important than the badge update is what it signifies. It signifies a commitment to the site by the powers that be, a commitment that many Members had thought was gone. Many believed that, given the activity elsewhere, perhaps stories space was just being left to wither away.

Sometimes it is just sooooo wonderful to be gloriously wrong!.

Now the Site has demonstrated its commitment to its Members its time for all Members to reciprocate, by writing more here and each introducing say one new Member a month?

We can do that you know.

I'm still waiting for at least two new badges to get applied to my profile. I'm sure that is simply because Gav has other more important chores to attend to. I'm looking at getting the Famous Story and the Millionaire's Club badges soon.

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Congratulations to admin and moderators for the update and new badges for me

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Congratulations to admin and moderators for the update and new badges for me

Well done you, beautiful lady

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I would agree to an extent. Since my stories are counted in the hundreds, even 2500 would be an unlikely achievement.

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Congratulations. That is quite an achievement. Well done, Anna.