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Quote by authorised1960
Although I've been here but a short few weeks I have already gained two super friends both of whom deserve a big shout-out:
The_Enchantress and maryruth. Much love to you both
Much love back to you Andy.
Adore you..you're a gem. And a very amazing and superb writer.
And a wonderful friend as well.
Quote by Circle_SomethingQuote by authorised1960
Would you tell your boss he's a twat to his face?
I actually did, in front of everyone. It doesn't really count, though, she's my friend XD
I've never tried climbing a tree to touch the full moon, but I'd certainly try.
Would you ever lob an ax at a lobster in the lobby of a lobotomist's lounge?
Of course! Wouldn't anybody?
Would you piss on a pachyderm playing polo in a pool hall?
I have dabbled in the pure porn side of erotica, primarily because it was a hell of a lot easier to write! Dancing around the subject of sex I found incredibly difficult to make 'sexy' or erotic. To my eyes it read as pretentious and, being utterly frank, rather tiresome and boring.
I used to contribute my compositions to a popular porn site that had a very active stories section. To this day I'll never forget a comment left on one of my stories to the effect that all they (the particular reader) wanted was the 'sex bits' and all the other stuff was bollocks!! I was really offended: it may 'only' be porn, but I put as much effort into developing a strong storyline and credible characters as I do with all my other writing. That one comment actually put me off writing in that genre and I have barely bothered since.
The other difficulty I found was trying to find new and interesting ways to describe the physical act of sexual intercourse. It's a simple and basic act: once part a is inserted into part b there's not a great deal else one can say! Sure, you can find new and interesting places and positions to put a and b together but the fact remains that it's still a dull act to write about over and over again.
I used to contribute my compositions to a popular porn site that had a very active stories section. To this day I'll never forget a comment left on one of my stories to the effect that all they (the particular reader) wanted was the 'sex bits' and all the other stuff was bollocks!! I was really offended: it may 'only' be porn, but I put as much effort into developing a strong storyline and credible characters as I do with all my other writing. That one comment actually put me off writing in that genre and I have barely bothered since.
The other difficulty I found was trying to find new and interesting ways to describe the physical act of sexual intercourse. It's a simple and basic act: once part a is inserted into part b there's not a great deal else one can say! Sure, you can find new and interesting places and positions to put a and b together but the fact remains that it's still a dull act to write about over and over again.
Quote by AvrgBlkGrl
I tend to side with Sherzahd. Poetry is an art form, as is pros. It is really hard to teach someone to be a truly fine poet. There is a natural, unexplainable, element that some have with little effort and some never achieve. However, that doesn't mean that it can't be taught. Like the study of art, there are techniques to be studied, guides for style, training and constant fine tuning. Like art, not just anything and everything the artist thought worthy makes it to the museum wall or any wall at all. To most artists, that's nice, but not necessary. Their desire to create is what drives them. The ironic thing is, if you read the personal writings of many great poets, you will find that for them the most important thing was that they write. They had to. They would have been doing it without the recognition anyway.
Just as there are many levels of education and intellect, there are many levels of poetry. I'd never assume the right to judge what level it should be written on, it depends on the writer and the reader. Journalism rules don't apply. The simplicity of "The Red Wheelbarrow" or "This is Just to Say" can't be paralleled to "Song of Myself". William Carlos Williams and Walt Whitman are both brilliant and all three poems are profound--one with a minimum of language and the other with the extreme. Someone might read either and say, "What's the point?" But, you will be fixed to find a survey American anthology of poetry without them in it. Why? Because they are exemplary.
And, that's poetry.
I'm curious, you speak as if the fact that your poetry may or may not make a point doesn't matter. Then why does what we think matter? We ain't (yeah I said ain't) nobody.
Concentrate on the art of it.
You do, of course, make fine and sensible points, which I applaud you for.
Poetry, itself an art-form (although that is a debateable statement in some circles) is as subjective as art, story-telling or a musical composition. Not everyone is going to like everything: do I think an unmade bed or half a cow suspended in formaldehyde is art? No, not for a moment. Do I believe that every piece of classical music ever compoised is by dint 'great'? Not a bit of it. Have I read and enjoyed the great literary classics? Some, but by no means all. Can I even remotely quantify why one painting/drawing/photograph touches something in me where another similar rendering leaves me cold? I wish I could. Do I know a 'good' poem when I read one? No, I don't think I do, but I DO know what I like. And, really, that's what it all boils down to: liking something because it means something personal to you.
The one thing I am dead sure of is that none of us amateur writers write for anything more than the process and pleasure of doing so. To do otherwise is setting oneself up to fail spectacularly. I would never claim to be the greatest writer or poet here or anywhere else. However, I can say in all honesty that I have written stuff that I am intensely proud of and treasure. By the same token I have written stuff that makes me cringe with embarrassment, and I would lay generous odds that every one of you who have contributed to this site (or similar sites) can make the same admission. It's who we are and what we do. It's our art and we should revel in it, celebrate it and not question it
