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My sleep is all over the map anymore. Sometimes I sleep well (I'm traditionally a 10:30-6:30 sleeper), sometimes fitfully (a lot of this recently; sleep for a while, have a weird or bad dream, wake up, go back to sleep, wake up having to use the loo, go back to sleep, another dream ... you get the idea), sometimes I'll be awake for an hour or two, usually in the wee hours.
Wake me up inside
Wake me up inside
Call my name and save me from the dark
Bid my blood to run
Before I come undone
Save me from the nothing I've become
Bring me to life

- Evanescence, "Bring me to life"
Hmm. My new poem (just went up a week ago) has had comments and I've received notifications for all of them that were basically what I expected. So whatever it is, isn't consistent.
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1.) When writing something like this, do you outline / block out the story arc for the whole thing first? Do you write a draft of the whole story, break it into chapters and then complete / submit chapter one?

2.) Do you plot out the biographical details character eleements before starting? Keep notes on the character?

3.) Did you start with the complexity of characters, plot elements, etc (love triangle, KKK, off to college, preachers’ kids, etc.)... determined to mix them in, or did they evolve during the writing?

4.) Do yo incorporate details that are personal and based upon your experiences? Are they always in your protagonist?

5.) Did you intend to break it into chapters? Would you make it a novella if you didn’t have to break it up?

6.) How far ahead of the latest published chapter is your writing?

This is obviously not all inclusive. I’ll leave off my practices lest I bias others’ responses.


I have only done one serial story so far and it is on the red site. I didn't really do much planning because I started off with a pair of stories about a couple whose wedding day goes awry (I think you might have read them before you left that site), then realized I could continue both characters' stories and just kind of winged it to see where they took me. In retrospect, I kind of wish I had planned it out more because I'm now stuck on how to end it or how much longer to carry it on.

OTOH, I have copious notes on characters and plot for another lengthy story (that could go here or red depending on how much I focus on the characters erotic lives) but have kind of lost interest in actually writing it. The act of planning it out seems to reduce my interest in it.
On topic: passive voice has its place, but I can't think of too many places in fiction where it's more effective than active. I probably will as soon as I hit Post, but I can't think of any right now.
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As a scientific writer I was always instructed to write in the passive voice as if that was more objective and impartial than the first person active voice. Perhaps that is why scientific papers seem so dry and boring when in fact they are often exciting. This was not always the case and some of the most interesting scientific writing of the 18th century was written in the active voice. I believe it is time for scientists to rebel against the restrictions imposed by well meaning pedants. You never know all those arts scholars among our small fellowship here on SS might be persuaded that we scientists are fun people to be with, and even moderately passable writers.


Thing is, the scientists who step outside that paradigm to write for a popular audience often do use active voice very well (Sagan, Tyson, etc.). So it's not like it's been beaten out of you, just suppressed. Let loose your inner writer!!
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Freshly caught (by my better half and son) wheat fish (Sea trout) grilled with garlic butter and dill and lemons. (It was a successful day of fishing.)


Nothing like going straight from the sea/lake to the grill/pan, eh? I've never been much of a fisherman, but in my youth going to the family cottage with my family, we usually had a few meals of fresh caught lake trout or smallmouth bass courtesy of Dad and brother who were.

Seafood chowder and fresh bread.
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How long does it normally take you to write a short story? Would the length of time be measured in hours, days or months?

How many drafts do you generally write?

It usually takes me a month or so to finish a story. I'm very nitpicky with editing and keep finding little errors here and there. I can't let my stories go until I've found as many as possible!


I tend to separate the process into writing the story and editing the product.

The first part, I usually get done fairly quickly. Maybe a couple days to a week depending on length and available time.

The second part, though can go on for a while. I tend to edit the hell out of every story for a couple weeks after that (unless there's a deadline, e.g. it's a comp entry on the red site). Sometimes it's just repeated re-reads with small edits each time to perfect things. Sometimes I end up rewriting paragraphs or sections to improve flow or impact.
So, when are you having me over for dinner?

I jest, but that menu sounds delicious. Made a pot of beef soup and had it with fresh bread (I have a bread machine) and spinach dip (store-bought).
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I am a huge fan a Lovecraft. My taste in reading does veer towards the macabre and supernatural and horror. My parents were concerned about my taste in reading, lol.

After seeing your post I pulled out my copy of some of Lovecraft's short stories. I had not read him in awhile. I have also been reading some of Stephen Kings son Joe Hills books. I was also interested to see that King has written a book with his other son Owen King that will be out in December. It will be interesting to see how that collaboration comes together.


I started reading Lovecraft in high school and he became a springboard for a general fondness for early twentieth century horror and fantasy (William Hope Hodgson, M. R. James, Clark Ashton Smith, Algernon Blackwood, and Arthur Machen are other faves). Finished Whisperer last night. May re-read the Dunwich Horror next. I'm supposed to be reading Charlie Jane Anders' All the Birds in the Sky (winner of multiple major awards in sf&f) but don't seem to be in the mood for reading new stuff right now.

Stephen's actually collaborated with Joe a couple times, too, though I think those ones are more pulp thriller than horror IIRC. Haven't read Joe yet but he's been on my radar since I first heard about him around the time he "came out" as being Joseph King. Writing doesn't seem to pass down generations the way music or acting seem to so it is interesting that the Kings seem to be bucking that trend. Only his daughter Naomi isn't a "writer" in the conventional sense. She's a Unitarian Universalist minister who does most of her ministry online due to a disability. And even she writes lovely meditations and opening and closing words for each day that get posted on FB and other social media (where I follow her).
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Rereading one of my favorite books.



Gil has such good taste in books. Haven't re-read that one in a while but I have that and a collection of Jackson's short stories in a place of honour on my bookshelf.

I've been re-reading some old favorites, too: H. P. Lovecraft. Currently nearing the end of his novella "The Whisperer in Darkness". Think the X-Files transplanted to about a century ago. Monstrous aliens lurking in dark corners of Vermont, humans conspiring with them, alien abductions, the whole 9 yards. Of course, it was also written about 60 years before the X-Files came along. Lovecraft was a seminal writer in modern horror.
Oh God no. I can only read a few of those before I have to go read some Lovecraft or King to cleanse my palate. I've always wanted to take one of those and twist the hell out of it.
Not sure I do that consciously so can't be sure what % I hit but those are the sorts of things that tend to happen when I am editing. I will try to be more conscious about it in future.
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It bothers me that we ever need to block someone. We are all adults here, but everyone here is intelligent and often opinionated. Some people have a hard time dealing with the conflict that may ensue and use blocking as a way to remove themselves from the intellectual fray. If it is someone's choice to do that, I will not criticize. I just am hopeful it is not me being blocked. I think as a site we should provide whatever service possible (Gav knows what is possible and practical) as long as it make a member more comfortable. I personally can not imagine blocking a fellow member myself, but that is just me and I would not judge other's actions just because they are different.


I have never used a block on either the blue or red site, but do make use of my ignore list on another site I frequent. However, it is always a temporary measure to help me pull back from someone who is irritating the hell out of me (and there are a couple people on that site who are very good at getting my back up).
Hey, Reg. Nice to see you over here. I still don't hang here much but keep an eye out.
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H. P. Lovecraft

He kept on writing thou providence and hard times.





A fantastic imagination and I will always love his fiction. But as a human being, he was a bit of a racist s**t.
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I love the way she is continually tweeting to put certain people in their place. Quite intelligent and witty..


I'm not her biggest fan as a writer (she's good but far from the best out there) but she is the master (mistress?) of the "sick burn" as my son calls it and I love seeing her take down some arsehole troll or idiot politician who dares to take her on.
Edmond Halley



What did he do?

Paid for the publication of Sir Isaac Newton's Principia, in which Newton's laws of motion and gravity appeared

Used Newton's work on gravity to become the first astronomer to calculate the orbit of a comet (which now bears his name)

Invented the diving bell

Developed an early magnetic, liquid-filled compass

Sailed extensively to make observations about the Earth's magnetic field and its effect on compasses and even became a sea captain

Was Britain's second Astronomer Royal (ironically, the first was an enemy of Halley's)

IOW, while he's not as well known as his friend and contemporary Isaac Newton, Halley is quite an impressive figure in the history of science in his own right.
You know why I don't buy cars from the big three? Because of crap like the Jeep I got as my insurance rental while my Honda CR-V is in the shop. The interior looks cheap, the instrumentation looks it came from the 1980s including a speedometer with a font so small I had trouble reading it (though there is some modern stuff like Bluetooth hidden away in there), and it burned through a 50 litre tank of dollar+ a litre gas like it was water. I get my Honda back on Monday. Good riddance.
I'd say ginger wiped the ... well, something with you, snoop. And with those words, I am at the END OF THE LINE!
Snoop does the hokey pokey. At night. In the local graveyard, Naked.
I've heard that musicboxdancer gets really wound up about things sometimes (pun alert).
And the people bowed and prayed
To the neon god they made
And the sign flashed out its warning
In the words that it was forming
And the signs said
"The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls
And whisper'd in the sounds of silence

The Sounds of Silence - Simon & Garfunkel
I am always up for a good conversation, really, so of course. My presence in this thread is probably redundant since I'll just say "Yes" to everyone.